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Legal details for Australia are incorrect #146

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pietercolpaert opened this issue Aug 21, 2016 · 12 comments
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Legal details for Australia are incorrect #146

pietercolpaert opened this issue Aug 21, 2016 · 12 comments

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According to @AusGOAL, the chapter on Australia in http://opendefinition.org/guide/data/ is incorrect and should be removed asap.

@AusGOAL: can you elaborate on this?

Source: #145 (comment)

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AusGOAL commented Aug 21, 2016

In brief, the OAKLaw articles are well out of date. In addition, since Desktop Marketing v Telstra there has been Phone Directories v Telstra, which reversed the earlier decision in Desktop. There has also been IceTV v NineMSN, and a number of other cases that have all dropped the sweat of the brow test.

In sum, the content of the guide with regard to Australia refers to cases that are no longer good law, and the other materials you point to are also out of date.

Perhaps this slidedeck might be of interest. https://docs.com/ausgoal/6263/odiq-open-data-essentials-law-and-licensing-course

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@AusGOAL would you be able to update the page at https://github.com/okfn/opendefinition/blob/gh-pages/guide/data/index.markdown so that it is corrected?

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AusGOAL commented Aug 21, 2016

I would be, but not today. In the meantime, I would greatly appreciate if
you would remove the content. Its misleading to people in Australia and
counter productive to the education and training activity AusGOAL does in
Australia to support open data.


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@AusGOAL https://github.com/AusGOAL would you be able to update the
page at https://github.com/okfn/opendefinition/blob/gh-pages/
guide/data/index.markdown so that it is corrected?


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enyst commented Aug 21, 2016

Wow, that's great to learn, thank you for sharing!

Cc: @rgrp

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AusGOAL commented Aug 21, 2016

You're welcome. Keep up the great work on this publication though! Its much needed!

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Thanks for the report. I deleted the Australia section. Feel free to open a pull request with up to date info.

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AusGOAL commented Aug 21, 2016

Thanks Mike.

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Thanks for the report. I deleted the Australia section. Feel free to open
a pull request with up to date info.


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rufuspollock commented Aug 22, 2016

@AusGOAL when would you be able to provide updated content. My concern here is that we will simply end up with dropped content and never re-add it.

@mlinksva so we don't forget to re-add it shall we open a new issue about reinstating the content properly updated?

@mlinksva + others: one question is whether we want this guide here at all - it might be better having a permanent home at http://opendatahandbook.org/

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AusGOAL commented Aug 22, 2016

Hi Rufus,

It should be this week, I have a draft already prepared.

Trust youre well by the way.. we havent spoken in a while.

Cheers

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@AusGOAL https://github.com/AusGoal when would you be able to provide
updated content. My concern here is that we will simply end up with dropped
content and never re-add it.

@mlinksva https://github.com/mlinksva + others: one question is whether
we want this guide here at all - it might be better having a permanent home
at http://opendatahandbook.org/


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@AusGOAL awesome Baden 😄 - yes I'm very well (and hope you are too!).

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mlinksva commented Aug 22, 2016

@rgrp agree, the material might best live elsewhere, probably best discussed in #145

@AusGOAL you might want to contribute an update to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sui_generis_database_right#Australia as well if needed.

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AusGOAL commented Aug 22, 2016

Hmmm goodness me... yes... ok.


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@rgrp https://github.com/rgrp agree, the material might best live
elsewhere.

@AusGOAL https://github.com/AusGOAL you might want to contribute an
update to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sui_generis_database_right#
Australia as well if needed.


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