Support AVIF

[GNURub]

I'd like to submit a proposal for a future feature to consider.

https://netflixtechblog.com/avif-for-next-generation-image-coding-b1d75675fe4

Format comparison:
https://jakearchibald.com/2020/avif-has-landed/

[kornelski]

I've written pure-rust encoder:
https://lib.rs/crates/cavif

And a decoder that uses libaom:
https://lib.rs/crates/aom-decode

[lilith]

What's the binary size of the decoder and encoder?

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[kornelski]

cavif is pretty lean. I've replaced libavif with basically one big struct. It's 100% pure Rust. Includes rav1e. Executable is 1.7MB, gzips to 500KB.

aom-decode is fatter — 7MB — since it pulls in all of libaom. I haven't looked at trimming it down. Maybe dav1d would be smaller, but it needs meson and ninja to build, and I'm not a fan.

[lilith]

I'm hesitant to triple the size of Imageflow to add avif support.

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On Fri, Sep 11, 2020, 1:44 PM Kornel ***@***.***> wrote: cavif is pretty lean. I've replaced libavif with basically one big struct. It's 100% pure Rust. Includes rav1e. Executable is 1.7MB, gzips to 500KB. aom-decode is fatter — 7MB — since it pulls in all of libaom. I haven't looked at trimming it down. Maybe dav1d would be smaller, but it needs meson and ninja to build, and I'm not a fan. — You are receiving this because you commented. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#508 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AAA2LHZ67D23RYDNUWJTAZLSFJ4YDANCNFSM4RHKIB3A> .

[kornelski]

I get that decoding brings in large dependencies, but you could support encoding only. Encoding can be done in pure Rust and rav1e is pretty lean. I've released my encoder as a library: https://docs.rs/ravif

[lilith]

I will consider it then.

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On Mon, Sep 14, 2020, 6:17 AM Kornel ***@***.***> wrote: I get that decoding brings in large dependencies, but you could support encoding only. Encoding can be done in pure Rust and rav1e is pretty lean. I've released my encoder as a library: https://docs.rs/ravif — You are receiving this because you commented. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#508 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AAA2LH2FHVXFOKTY2JYD37LSFYCWFANCNFSM4RHKIB3A> .

[iJungleboy]

Any progress on this? I would be very interested since AVIF support is at around 70% https://caniuse.com/avif and I believe it's really good.

[lilith]

I'm really hoping iOS adds support for AVIF. Safari gets much of its speed by delegating image processing to the OS and its incredible hardware integration, so stuff lands much more slowly there. I would like to add this, but I have a lot going on right now, so I can't offer a timeline.

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[iJungleboy]

No problem - and thanks for your more-than-amazing work!

[stevetayloruk]

Support for this would be great with Safari soon to be supporting. https://www.coywolf.news/webmaster/safari-now-supports-avif-in-macos-ventura-and-ios-16/

[zz]

@lilith AVIF support now?

[lilith]

It's planned. It will be slow, though, no getting around that.

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[swiftMessenger]

AVIF support is around 93% now, and I've seen some adoption by the public as well. Is there an estimated timeline for when ImageFlow will support it? Also there was some (old) discussion about supporting an encoder but not a decoder. Is that still under consideration? The decoder is as important to me as the encoder.

[lilith]

It is still under consideration; it's orders of magnitude slower to encode, however, so I'm currently focusing on bolstering caching and ahead-of-time cache priming. The decoder is also more security-critical surface area... and this format will singlehandled double the binary size of the product and affect scale-up times accordingly. This week I'm adding aarch64 support for apple/win/linix.

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On Thu, Aug 22, 2024, 2:55 PM Levi Carter ***@***.***> wrote: AVIF support is around 93% now, and I've seen some adoption by the public as well. Is there an estimated timeline for when ImageFlow will support it? Also there was some (old) discussion about supporting an encoder but not a decoder. Is that still under consideration? The decoder is as important to me as the encoder. — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#508 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AAA2LHY2333GVJ3N6IXL3VTZSZF43AVCNFSM6AAAAABM65H7IGVHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43OSLTON2WKQ3PNVWWK3TUHMZDGMBVGYYTSNBZGI> . You are receiving this because you were mentioned.Message ID: ***@***.***>

[kornelski]

Proper caching is definitely required to compress AVIF properly. However, if you'd like something implementable sooner, then ravif/rav1e at the fastest encoding setting takes only about as long as encoding WebP, and is still a bit better than WebP.

[iJungleboy]

aarch64

@tvatavuk this may be interesting for you as you were experimenting with ARM/Windows...

[lilith]

Supported aarch64 in source. But publishing is a problem since github windows arm runners lack git, pwsh, bash, and everything.

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[tvatavuk]

Thanks @lilith (and @iJungleboy) for making it possible to use Imageflow on Windows 11 ARM64. 😊

I did a small proof of concept and manually built imageflow.dll on Windows 11 ARM64. Thanks to the great assets in your Imageflow git repo and some help for a Rust newbie from Microsoft Copilot AI on Windows Copilot+PC, 2sxc is now showing images processed by Imageflow in Oqtane also on Windows 11 ARM64 in IIS and IIS Express at least in my dev env. 🎉

Still, this is a build of the latest development version of imageflow.dll and is probably newer than the one used in 2sxc (I'm not sure about vertical compatibility). 🤔

This is a great step forward! 🚀